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Dang...

This reads like a high school intro to philosophy report. Jeez, have Wikipedia standards sunk this low? 209.104.239.26 (talk) 15:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning "citation needed"

Dear Friends, without doubt, the missing references are included in the book: Adrian Desmond / James Moore: Darwin, 1991 - but I'm sorry, I only have the german edition Hamburg 1994 (look the new article about Martineau from today in Wikipedia de). With greatings from cold Thüringer Wald --Datschist (talk) 19:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more sources

There seems an over-reliance on one article by Postlethwaite; other sources should be added.Parkwells (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One book?

The article starts saying she wrote only one book, then has her writing books and novels throughout her life. Huh?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.158.134 (talk) 22:49, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Material about other people

The article now tells us:

In February 2014, it was reported that London's National Portrait Gallery held several portraits of Harriet, whose great nephew, Francis Martineau Lupton, was the great-great-grandfather of Catherine, Princess of Wales, the gallery's patron.^[1] Harriet was close to her niece Frances Lupton, who worked to open up educational opportunities for women.^[2] In April 2023, Catherine, Princess of Wales visited Birmingham's Jewellery Quarter where her great-great-great-great-greataunt – Harriet Martineau – is buried at the Key Hill Cemetery.^[3]

References

^ Furness, Hannah (11 February 2014). "Duchess of Cambridge visits National Portrait Gallery, home to little-known Middleton family paintings". The Daily Telegraph. p. 3. Retrieved 14 March 2014.
^ Martineau, Harriet (1 January 1983). Arbuckle, Elisabeth Sanders (ed.). Harriet Martineau's Letters to Fanny Wedgwood. Stanford University Press. p. 150. ISBN 9780804711463. Retrieved 15 May 2015. (May 1857) My (H. Martineau) niece, Mrs (Frances) Lupton and her husband came for two days
^ Perrin, B. (18 April 2023). "Kate Middleton 'is a Brummie' claims history teacher ahead of Royal visit to city". BirminghamLive. Retrieved 24 April 2023. Mr Reed told BirminghamLive: "Kate's great great great great great aunt Harriet Martineau who died in 1876 – who is famous as the 'greatest American abolitionist' – is buried in the Jewellery Quarter at Key Hill cemetery. ...Kate and William will be visiting the Jewellery Quarter this Thursday, April 20.

I don't remember ever encountering an article about somebody that, via a mention of their niece or the niece's son, goes on to say that a great×4 niece visited the burial site, or the area thereof (but not that she thereupon said or did anything noteworthy). I don't believe that this Lupton/Middleton material says anything significant about the person who's the ostensible subject of the article. Suggested abridgement:

In February 2014, it was reported that London's National Portrait Gallery held several portraits of Martineau.^[1]

References

^ Furness, Hannah (11 February 2014). "Duchess of Cambridge visits National Portrait Gallery, home to little-known Middleton family paintings". The Daily Telegraph. p. 3. Retrieved 14 March 2014.

Comments? -- Hoary (talk) 22:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hoary, I support your suggested abridgement. TSventon (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, TSventon. I'll wait a few days for others' comments. -- Hoary (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For (my) "a great×4 niece" above, please read "a great×5 niece". -- Hoary (talk) 02:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody suggested that I shouldn't, so a few minutes ago I deleted the material. -- Hoary (talk) 10:24, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Furness, Hannah (11 February 2014). "Duchess of Cambridge visits National Portrait Gallery, home to little-known Middleton family paintings". The Daily Telegraph. p. 3. Retrieved 14 March 2014.

[2] Martineau, Harriet (1 January 1983). Arbuckle, Elisabeth Sanders (ed.). Harriet Martineau's Letters to Fanny Wedgwood. Stanford University Press. p. 150. ISBN 9780804711463. Retrieved 15 May 2015. (May 1857) My (H. Martineau) niece, Mrs (Frances) Lupton and her husband came for two days

[BirminghamLive-3] Perrin, B. (18 April 2023). "Kate Middleton 'is a Brummie' claims history teacher ahead of Royal visit to city". BirminghamLive. Retrieved 24 April 2023. Mr Reed told BirminghamLive: "Kate's great great great great great aunt Harriet Martineau who died in 1876 – who is famous as the 'greatest American abolitionist' – is buried in the Jewellery Quarter at Key Hill cemetery. ...Kate and William will be visiting the Jewellery Quarter this Thursday, April 20.

[4] Furness, Hannah (11 February 2014). "Duchess of Cambridge visits National Portrait Gallery, home to little-known Middleton family paintings". The Daily Telegraph. p. 3. Retrieved 14 March 2014.

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